Stick Up Cam Elite vs Stick Up Cam Wired 2nd Generation

Hi Dww - thanks for bringing that out. You are correct, however, I believe the jist of the frustration that most of us have is that "adding a PoE injector to this product is not worth the additional cost. All of my cams are just the original wired cams, which was launched prior to this version with the included PoE injector. What we want is to be able to purchase the “original” cam at the price point it was at or cheaper without the PoE injector.

Hi JustSecurity,
I totally get your point and it’s nice to know someone else agrees with me. I purchased a POE switch for about $50 to cover most of the cameras. I don’t need the injectors either and told multiple supervisors and a manger that they should just offer a cam only option. I hope more customers voice this concern as well. I’m also like to be as environmentally friendly as possible so recycling stuff I don’t need is not a best practice in my book. I hope you find another good option. I searched and found a few but like the simplicity of Ring and wanted to eventually move to their alarm system as well for as close to an all In one option. I think my thought process is to make my life simpler but sometimes I wonder. Lol

Hey Mav, I guess my assumption about the stick up cam was right all along. Yeah, Amazon/Ring did a marketing switch a roo in that they took the original stick-up cam wired and included in the box a PoE (Power over Ethernet) adapter. In addition, they claimed that the device has better video, sound and build quality. None of this makes sense and the side by side comparison with my neighbors demonstrate a less quality product when looking at the piture where these cams were placed on my home side by side. In addition, as I predicted to the contradiction of the Ring support team, the Stick up CAM wired (the camera that only had an ethernet cable in the box and NOT PoE) is NO-LONGER available. Bate and switch by Ring. Marketing is always based on false narratives and stretching the truth, but rarely get caught in the act of doing it. Well there are new cams coming on the market and I’m testing 3 in order to replace my rings as once I find that a company is unethical in its selling practice, I completely stop using their products. I’ve lost faith and will move on.

Hey, I know this has been dead thread for a while, but do you think the $100 per cam for a PoE injector is fair ? I purchased an 8 port PoE gigabyte switch for $125 and I have 7 cameras. I saved myself $675 dollars - what am I missing here ?

Thanks for your info, but that’s a given. The original stick up Cam was $100 at any of my computer stores nearby. The so-called new and improved stick up cam is $100 more bring the cost to $200 ea… I have 7 cams. That would have been $1400 for those cams where a PoE switch cost $110 or $125 savign almost $700 over the new cam cost.

According to some websites, like this , the specs are identical. So what was $100 for a PoE camera and $30 for the optional PoE injector is now $200. So they are charging an extra $70 for ??? I just need the PoE camera, not the injector and definitely not at that price. Even if Ring forces me to purchase their injector along with the cam, the price should be $130 right?

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Man, I welcome you to the club! They’re marketing folk really screwed the pooch on this one and I’ve been complaining for almost a year or more. What a way to “BURN” your core customer who knows how to use your product and force everyone to suffer for a $10.00 module (Ok, I said $10 because I don’t believe a PoE home type injector is worth more) that is being sold for $100!!! I cannot recall when a company made a bold, but badly executed move like this.

I’ve been testing a number of other IP based cam’s and am close to deciding which of them I’ll utilize as my primary system (not saying that I’ll keep these RING THINGS.) In addition, if they were going to UP the price by $100 why didn’t that open up the compatibility as well so that I can store my own video as well as cloud and also integrate with my home technology.

What a POS they’ve become!!!

If you want another suggestion, check out Amcrest. I have used Foscam/Amcrest for about 10 years. Not the best software but more affordable than Ring with comparable/better quality cams. Amcrest’s comparable floodlight cam is about $20 less than Ring’s, has a weather rating IP66 (Ring’s is only IP55) and also has a microSD slot on the camera. Most of Amcrest cams have a microSD slot so you don’t have to use cloud based storage if you don’t want to. I wanted to get away from using a Chinese brand and a 3rd party app, at least for now, and since I just bought some Ring cams last week I’m going to stick with it. Hopefully they get better. If Ring can get their wifi stuff figured out they could take out the zwave market pretty quickly. I still use zwave for every home automation except camera systems.

@kev84 - thanks for the recommendation sir and I appreciate it. I’ve been around this IT business long enough to know that when “BIG” companies buy “Little” companies slowly the big machine will start to turn the wheels. The first thing that you usually see is an attempt to grow the profit margin in two ways: 1) increase the product line cost with mislabeled improvements; 2) re-invent the technical support infrastructure with outsourcing; - I think Ring/Amazon has done both.

Fortunately / unfortunately the Ring cams got me to a point where I was no loner dependent on a monitored solution by a third party who had integrated cameras at a lofty monthly cost. But now, thanks to Rings technology/price gouging direction, I was forced to find an alternater.

It turns out, in my quest to get away from Big Tech cloud, I was able to replace my entire network and camera environment with a Ubiquiti system. Their indoor cam’s are 80 bucks and the picture quality is unmatched by Ring; Their bullet cam’s don’t have the degree range that Ring does, but at their cost, I bought two to handle that problem (which is the cost of a floodlight cam (Oh that just went out on me and I purchased a single flood light, with switch and the two cams, still $60 cheaper than Ring).

So farewell Ring-a-leers, I hope the parent company do not drag you all down the slippery price gouging slope. I look to see another price increase before summer.

And… The best thing about this Ubiquiti system is that I have local control of my vid’s and cloud storage for events. Go figure, you actually can own your video. Who’d a thunk it!!!

I’ll peek in from time to time.