Serious Safety Flaw - please correct!
Just installed a new Ring System - Doorbell, wired Cams, Sensors, etc. Covers our entire house. Love it so far. However... There is a SERIOUS flaw in the system as far as protection that I feel needs to be addressed ASAP. The Flaw: It seems that the Ring sensors go into a 'wait' mode of about 3 minutes (after sensing motion) before they re-arm. Not sure why. The Exploit: Ring gives you a false sense of security when you arm the system (in either 'Home' or 'Away' mode). It gives you the green checkmark saying all sensors are armed, which would make me confidently leave my house, etc. - thinking I'm protected. However... The 3 (or so) minute sensor delay is still in effect - meaning that the motion sensors will NOT pick up anything or ACTIVATE THE ALARM during that time period. Yikes!!!! That means that it would be possible for someone to break into a motion-sensor protected area, steal a bunch of stuff, kill my pet, a person(!) etc. and make a clean get away. 3 minutes may not seem like a long time - until your life is in danger - then it is an eternity. I realize this would be an outlier scenario. But it should be an no-brainer one for a device that is supposed to protect you 24/7. PLEASE address this!
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28-07-2019 05:29:17
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While I don't personally consider the three minut delay on the motion sensors to be a serious security breech, it would still be good to be able to set a zero delay. That way you could use the system as a panic button. I arm and disarm my system with Alexa commands . If I heard strange noises/voices and realized the system was disarmed, I would like to be able to voice control the system on with an immediate response to motion.
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10-09-2019 12:16:04
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While I don't personally consider the three minut delay on the motion sensors to be a serious security breech, it would still be good to be able to set a zero delay. That way you could use the system as a panic button. I arm and disarm my system with Alexa commands . If I heard strange noises/voices and realized the system was disarmed, I would like to be able to voice control the system on with an immediate response to motion.
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10-09-2019 01:49:46
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UI found this thread while searching for a solution to this issue of delay. It is clear to me that Ring designed it this way and doesn't see a problem with it. I'm just here to post that this is a problem and that this isn't how a lot of people want their motion sensors to behave. After a Ring motion sensor detects motion, it essentially goes dead for four minutes, so any motion is completely ignored for four minutes after an initial motion detection. I don't see how Ring thinks this is a good design. But they do think this, and at the very least they should give people an option to change this. I am using motion sensors to trigger routines with Alexa. These routines need to run every single time a motion is detected, even if the motions occur 30 seconds apart. Paralyzing the routines for four minutes makes the routines useless. Probably makes a lot of motion-based routines useless. Hopefully Ring will fix this some day.
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07-10-2019 08:41:47
SI agree 100%. Having a motion sensor go 'dead' after detecting motion is just plain dumb. The only thing I can think of is they do this to preserve battery life. I also agree that this should be an option that can be changed by the user. Can anyone at Ring give us a clear explanation of the logic behind making motion sensors go dead for 3-4 minutes after detecting motion? And why can't you just update the software/firmware to make it a user setting? Example setting I'd love to see: After inital motion detection, pause addtional motion detection for: a) 0 seconds b) 30 seconds c) 1 minute d) 2 minutes e) 3 minutes Note: Setting a lower pause time may impact battery life.
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07-10-2019 12:28:15
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TechGuy42
Good catch, major kudos
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29-07-2019 02:09:48
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