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DigitalDave

If the motion sensors don't require separate power to them then they should work just fine. The Retrofit Alarm Kit installation directions seem to indicate that motion sensors do require an external power source but there's little detail.I installed two retrofit panels - one for the casement (crank handle) windows in the front of the house and the second for the casement windows in the kitchen. Ring's sensors are much too large to use with casements. A limitation with the retrofit kits is that the Ring system sees each panel as one "device" and I want to know which set of windows would be triggering an alarm, hence the need for two retrofit panels. That aside, we have two Ring motion sensors on our system and we'll be adding a third. They're really easy to install and when tested worked as expected and worth the $30 investment.

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24-01-2020 21:50:28

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sirfergy

Where would motion sensors get power from if not their panel? And I presume that means I’d be out of luck using my wired motion sensors that pull power from the panel.

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24-01-2020 22:09:30

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DigitalDave

There are a range of products so it's hard to tell without knowing the manufacturer and model of the motion detector that you have so it can be researched to know if it can work. If there are more than two wires for a wired motion detector then it's likely to require external power and be incompati

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24-01-2020 22:26:26

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DigitalDave

No, not directly. Motion sensors need power to work and retrofit kits don't provide that. The directions do indicate this but I don't remember where exactly. The Ring motion sensors are battery powered and wireless.

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25-02-2020 19:47:51

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BT11
Like others have mentioned, you can use your legacy alarm panel (if you have one) to power the wired motion sensors. I did this for successfully. However, there are downsides...one big issue for me. Others have mentioned the large number of motion events in the log. I agree these events cause undesirable clutter, but I could tolerate that. But I have a bigger concern which may have convinced me to just use Ring's motion sensors. Granted, I do not have the time to do a controlled experiment. Every motion detection represents at least 2 transmissions that the retrofit kit has to make to the base station (open and closed). With 3 wired motion detectors in my home, I'm concerned the battery life of the retrofit will be significantly degraded by all of these events. If I lived in the home, battery replacement wouldn't be a big deal. But my alarm is on an Airbnb out of state. Each battery replacement can result in a bill from my property manager. So, if battery life for your retrofit kit is important, you may want to consider excluding wired motion sensors. Yes, of course Ring motion sensors may also have battery concerns (though not much due to the 3 min hysteresis), but I'd rather lose one or two Ring motion zones due to battery than lose my entire perimeter coverage because my retrofit kit battery dies. Note: If you've got some electrical training, you could probably power your retrofit kit using your legacy alarm panel instead of batteries. For me, that's a project for another time.
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21-04-2020 16:25:25
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gobblke
Yes, With External Integration: Keeping the original alarm system in place to power the motions was not an option for me so I did it a little differently.I ordered a terminal block to supply terminate my RING Keypad and Motions (qty=4) for power being supplied by an external 12V power supply. I turned off the chirps by configuring for NO for Chirp Tones in the actual motion sensor config. Pay attention to your + and - for supplying power, it was pretty simple. I'm not sure what the impact will be on the batteries for the retro-fit, but I saved 4 motions that were wired.[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D9BXTM/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o01\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D9BXTM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)I used this converter to power the RING Keypad with the original wiring...[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RDGR9GF/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o01\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RDGR9GF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)In the image the power (12vDC) is supplied by the pigtail on the terminal block, then you cut down what you are feeding power to on the +/- terminal strip.Still testing for reliablity / false alarms with no issues, and the dog does not set them off either since the motions are designed for an 80# canine... This is simple integration that RING should provide, but this would drop sales of their motions so why bother...Follow up will happen if reliability becomes a problem... : )
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27-07-2020 18:10:09
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AlejandroL
For those who still have question about the wired motion sensors. I found you can certainly connect them with the retrofit. There are a few limitations though.1. You need to somehow provide power to the wired motion sensor ( you can keep your existing aka old panel and feed the power through that)2. You will set it up on a zone and configure on the app as “window”.3. on the app it will show up as a “zone” unless you named it motion sensor during setup.4. To avoid the constant notifications, go into the configuration settings on the app for that specific “zone”. From here deactivate the open and closed alerts. When you walk in front of the sensor the app will show it as “opened”. This is the equivalent to “motion detected”5. Now under Mode settings, only leave the Away mode active. If you leave the Home mode active your alarm will go off when someone walk by the sensor in the middle of the night while you sleep and the system is set to home. You really only need the motion sensor to go off when you are Away.6. Chirp mode: select none so that your base station and your phone don’t play any sound through out the day or night.7. If you check your settings for the wireless motion sensors everything is pretty much the same.Hope this helps everyone!
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30-06-2021 05:23:38
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Caitlyn_Ring
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30-06-2022 21:21:20
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