@Ham wrote:
This is a serious problem. Unfortunately, Ring is unable to fix it. I reported it about 6 months ago and nothing was done to fix this very bad issue. A big stigma on Ring for this unprofessional business!
This original old post was started over a year ago by @SoriceConsulting , while utilizing the Generation1 Motion-Detection sensors. The Gen1 sensors do have a “Dwell-Time” of 3-minutes (the period that they ‘wait’ before they can transmit another Z-Wave signal to the Alarm Base Station). After the initial ‘triggered’ motion event (“motion detected”), the sensor will NOT send another Z-Wave signal to the Base Station until the Dwell-Time has expired (and “stopped detecting motion”). Also, Dwell-Time is not 4 or 5 minutes, that I’ve seen in some incorrect posts. Periods over 3-minutes are the result of continued motion being detected after the Dwell-Time and motion has not ceased. For Gen1, this is interpreted as a continuation of the same initial trigger event (but only for a little while longer). This prevents the sensor from sending out multiple alerts for the same motion.
First, some posts in this online Ring Community website mistakenly state that if the Alarm is set to HOME or AWAY alarm Modes during the Dwell-Time, that FALSE idea that the Motion-Detector will be ‘bypassed’ and never activate the Alarm system ever! Once the Dwell-Time is completed without movement , the Motion-sensor will send a Z-Wave status signal to the Base Station that it _ _ clear & ready (“stopped detecting motion” ) , and will instantly trigger the alarm if it detects motion. Motion-Sensor Dwell-Time is set this way for multiple reasons, and incorporated “on-purpose.” It is constructed this way and Dwell-Time cannot be changed or adjusted by software.
Now, the newer Motion-Detector Sensors ( Gen2 ) only have a maximum “Dwell-Time” of 30-seconds , not 3-minutes for the Gen1. Also, unlike the Gen1, as soon as the 30-second Dwell-Time is finished, if it ‘sees’ ANY motion, it WILL send another Z-Wave “motion-detected” signal.
The likelihood that you exiting, triggering that Gen2 motion-detector to start the 30-second Dwell-Time ‘timer’, then exiting before the Exit-delay expiration, and then having a thief immediately break-in and start stealing stuff in the remaining Dwell-Time, is practically impossible.
To illustrate this better, let’s suppose you have the newer Gen2 motion-sensors and your Alarm Mode Exit Delay is set at 30-seconds, and you have mounted a Motion-sensor and Keypad both right at your doorway. Now in this example, as you go to the Keypad to arm the alarm system, your movement triggers the motion-sensor which commences the 30-second Dwell-Time timer. But let’s say that you are super-duper blazing fast and can then type your 4 digital code into the keypad, press an arming mode button, open your door, exit, shut the door, and deadbolt lock it, all in only 1-second. You gave yourself 30-seconds to get out, but the Dwell-Time ‘timer’ had already started a moment prior to you reaching the keypad. As the Alarm Exit-Delay counts down to arm at 30-seconds, the motion-detector will have already finished it’s entire Dwell-Time before the Alarm countdown!
For another extreme example, let’s suppose your Keypad is nowhere near your exit door, and a Gen1 Motion-Sensor is monitoring this door. You press the arm button and the 30-second Exit-delay countdown starts, and then you reach the door and exit with only 1-second remaining to arm-time . . . and suppose it’s at that very last 1-second instant that the Motion-sensor first ‘sees’ you and starts it’s 30-second Dwell-Time. In this unrealistic example, in 29-seconds your Motion-sensor will finish it’s Dwell-Time. Remember you are still walking away from the door during this 29-second period, so the thief is most likely gonna wait a few, for you to depart. But suppose you are super-duper fast and somehow manage to walk to your car, get inside, start it, and then speed-off in only 1-second. So now, a thief needs to instantly break-in and start stealing in the remaining 28-seconds before the siren sounds! As you can see, this example is an extreme impossibility, and that realistically the Dwell-Time will be finished before you even have reached your car. This example is totally unrealistic, unless this thief is magically even more super-duper faster than you!
Even if you own the older Gen1 motion-sensors (Dwell-Time of 3-minutes), and you set an exit-delay at it’s maximum of 180-seconds (3-minutes), in this case, the Motion-sensors will already be ready by arm time. And if you use a Gen1 sensor with a 30-second exit-delay, the absolute maximum time a thief could possibly have is 150-seconds, and that’s if the thief breaks-in instantly after you did your super-duper departure. If this short 150-second time still concerns you, then just hang out for a few at your door. Or invest in the newer Gen2 sensors (not available in all countries, but will be soon). But realistically in 150-seconds you are just starting your car (still at your house).
So, I disagree with you @Ham . This is NOT a serious issue at all.
OK, you might ask, _“How do you know the Gen2 Dwell-Time is only 30-seconds Max? I cannot find that Dwell number anywhere.” _ It is explained here:
I hope this information is helpful to you and alleviates any major concerns you have about Motion-Sensor “Dwell-Time.”
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